Conversations with a Rattlesnake — Theo Fleury & Kim Barthel

Conversations with a Rattlesnake: Raw and honest reflections on healing and trauma

Following the release of his mind-blowing first book, Playing with Fire, Theo Fleury joins forces with world-renowned therapist Kim Barthel in a new book, Conversations with a Rattlesnake, coming out November 2014. The book is a raw and honest conversation, loaded with personal insights and cutting-edge information about healing from trauma and abuse.

Fleury calls Barthel the “Wayne Gretzky of therapy” and within their emotionally safe relationship he bares his soul so that others can learn from his mistakes, triumphs and new learnings. Fleury’s story will inspire not only those overcoming their own trauma but friends, parents, teachers, coaches, therapists and health practitioners-anyone who is in the critical position of supporting someone who needs to share their own story.

Co-author Kim Barthel provides an in-depth explanation of early childhood attachment and addiction that ties into the reasoning behind our behaviours and the science of how our brains work. Barthel explains how understanding groundbreaking scientific and psychological research can eliminate the unnecessary and damaging shame that so often accompanies abuse and trauma. Her dialogue with Fleury illuminates self-awareness, mindfulness and the power of relationships. Fleury’s life experiences and Barthel’s informed interpretation combine to provide a unique look at the healing process that is easy to read, entertaining and transformational. [Chapters | Indigo]


This is one of those books that has made for a truly transformational experience for me, for many reasons. I started working with Theo and Kim while they were still writing this book, so I was blessed to get a behind-the-scenes look at how the creative and publishing process was for them. These two are an incomparable and unstoppable force together, both as co-authors but also as co-speakers and co-creators as well. This book gives you a glimpse of the magic that happens in their relationship, and their vulnerability and authenticity really shines through.

But this may also be because of the unique fashion in which this book was written, which is essentially a transcript of a real conversation between Kim and Theo where they take on everything from trauma to attachment, relationships to sex, spirituality to healing and everything between. What this book has become, for me anyways, is the ultimate guide and resource for healing—from anything. My copy of ‘Conversations with a Rattlesnake’ is full of hundreds of post-it notes, marking the many places I continue to reference in my day-to-day life. I’ve read this book in its entirety many, many times, and every time I do it offers me something new.

I’ve gifted this book to many people struggling through a hard time, or who are working to understand themselves or people they love and support, and I recommend the same to everything reading this blog.


Book information: 

  • Hardcover, ebook
  • Self-help/wellness
  • Available in some book stores, Chapters, Amazon

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